Tulsa Peace Fellowship

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Quarterly meeting (assigned reading)

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Quarterly meeting (assigned reading)

Time: October 22, 2021 from 5:30pm to 7pm
Location: Church of the Restoration (UU)
Street: 1314 N. Greenwood Ave. (at corner Oklahoma St.)
City/Town: Tulsa
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Event Type: reading, circle
Organized By: TPF Steering Committee
Latest Activity: Oct 23

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Meet IN PERSON to discuss the assigned reading, Church of the Restoration UU, 1314 N. Greenwood Ave (across from Carver Elementary), on Friday, 10-22 at 5:30

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The assigned reading is attached, as a PDF file. Anyone who has done the reading is welcome to attend.


Of course, since we are meeting in person, the meeting is for vaccinated people only; the unvaccinated should either stay away or at minimum wear a quality N95 or KN95 mask so as not to spread the virus. Anyone feeling ill in any way should not come to an in-person meeting.

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Comment by Tony Nuspl on October 23, 2021 at 2:04pm

Mentioned in our discussion was this scene from the epic biopic "Gandhi" (1982, with Ben Kingsley in the title role), which re-enacts a high point in the nonviolent resistance that eventually won India its independence as a county, as Gregg puts it "a struggle for freedom that took twenty-eight years" (p.144):

What Real Protest means.....Gandhi.wmv


[run time: 4min 22sec]

The scene illustrates, from historical events in 1930, the kind of discipline required in order for nonviolent persuasion to work, and the extremes of self-sacrifice that were involved--as explained in Richard Greggs book--how Gandhi's 'volunteers' fathfully carried out his method of defiance against injustice. When there are such rivetting examples of the power of nonviolent resistance (Satygraha), or how to make a demand of the powers that be, overthrowing authority through moral superiority, it's hard to understand why people remain incurious about Gandhi, or about those in the West like Gregg who translate the ideas for the English-speaking world.

The above scene is recounted by Gregg, reproducing the news stories about it that appeared in the Western press, notably the eyewitness account provided by special correspondent Webb Miller (chp.1 "Modern Examples of Nonviolent Resistance," pp.29-34). Some relevant figures about the struggle as a whole, as provided by Gregg: "In the Indian struggle for independence, though I know of no accurate statistics, hundreds of thousands of Indians went to jail, probably not more than five hundred received permanent physical injuries, and probably not over eight thousand were killed immediately or died later from wounds. No British, I believer, were killed or wounded." (chp.7 "An Effective Substitute for War", p.106)

Comment by Tony Nuspl on October 12, 2021 at 5:32pm

If you're keen to read more from Richard Gregg on "The Power of Nonviolence" --and only if you're keen (not required reading)-- the recommended edition is the one edited by James Tully, that comes with his introductory essay, published in the series "Cambridge Texts in the History of Political Thought", available both as a paperback and as an ebook.


You can likely find a discount print copy from alternative booksellers, such as through the Advanced Book Exchange (abebooks.com)



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